25. Releasing Birth Fears and Expectations with EFT Tapping
I had so much fun chatting with Denise on this episode, we dove into inner work and releasing any feelings you might be internally hanging on to that might hinder your birth vision. She did a live mini-demonstration of what an EFT tapping session could look like, it was AMAZING!
Denise Kleinman provides a structure for parents to do the inner work required to show up as their best selves with their families. Denise compassionately supports clients in clearing a diverse range of traumas, losses, and blocks. Clinical EFT Tapping can quickly and effectively reduce triggers to raise your emotional foundation so you can more easily reset in stressful situations.
Having parented neurodivergent kids for two decades, she brings particular skill in supporting parents of 'kids with labels', including 2E/gifted, ADHD, highly sensitive, and non-CIS gender, as well as families experiencing grief, loss, or major life transitions.
Overview of our chat:
Denise's C-section and VBAC stories
How a partner can support mom during the birth experience
How EFT tapping can help you have the birth experience you've been hoping for
Live demo of a mini-tapping session
Connect with Denise ⤵️
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Email: ddkaustin@gmail.com
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Welcome back to the Birth Junkie podcast. I am here today with Denise and a little bit about Denise. She provides a structure for parents to do the inner work required to show up as their best self with their family. Denise compassionately supports clients in clearing a diverse range of traumas, losses, and blocks.
Clinical EFT tapping can quickly and effectively reduce triggers to raise your emotional foundation so you can more easily reset in stressful situations. I love everything about that. I love EFT tapping. I know personally that's helped me. So if you wouldn't mind, kind of let's dive right into it. Sounds great.
Yeah. Thanks for having me on the program. So yeah, I've been doing EFT tapping for about two years and I got into it kind of by accident. I was laid off actually during COVID in my, in my last professional position and I had just discovered it and just found relief from Um, things in my life I thought I had resolved that evidently I had not.
And so, um, I just decided it was working so well for me that I wanted to bring this tool to the world and help parents in particular. And so I work with a variety of parents, but I especially enjoy working with parents of neurodivergent children, um, which I call kids with labels. So it's really a self identified group.
You know, it's any parent who may be struggling with. Their child's diagnosis or difference. It can be, like I said, a bunch of different things. And so, um, just because there can be a lot of doubt about, am I doing things right? I mean, parenting itself has a lot of doubts to begin with, but when your child is outside the box, then it adds to that complexity.
And so that I have a, an especially, um, special place in my heart for those parents. Yeah, so where did that special place in your heart come from? Well, from my own children. So my oldest is Um, has ADHD and, um, is twice what is considered twice exceptional, so gifted and ADHD and in fact, the ADHD I believe is linked to his birth because he was born through cesarean.
And I know we're going to get into that, but there is some research that supports, um, or that indicates that that babies who are born through cesarean sometimes do, you know, their brains don't get wired the way that that nature intended. Um, and so, you know, that was, in fact, to kind of segue into that, um, that was one of the reasons why I was really committed to having a vaginal birth for my subsequent children, um, because of the health benefits for both the mom and the baby.
Yeah, definitely. And so when you did have your c section with your first, um, how did that come about? Like, what, what did that look like before you had your c section and into your c section? Yeah, so I, um, I gave birth the first time in Vermont and which is a very, you know, sort of natural birth. Focused culture and that was I was completely on board with that.
That was what I was planning. That is what I wanted. I was planning on, you know, having like as few interventions as possible. And so I decided I didn't even want to give birth in the local hospital because it was just kind of icky. And so I decided to work with some midwives who used a smaller community hospital, which was about an hour away.
And, and I had a, I had a really healthy pregnancy, um, you know, I actually felt really good and was excited and, but the brown, I don't remember, it's been so long, but like, you know, towards, like, I'd say 30 ish weeks or so I started feeling like he wasn't in the right position. And these midwives were very anti technology and they, they would not have doing ultrasound.
And so they, based upon where they, they heard his heartbeat, they said, Oh, no, he's, he's, he's where he needs to be. Thank you. And that was like the first red flag, because it turned out I was right. Um, and I didn't find out, it wasn't confirmed that he was breached until I was 41 and a half weeks. Because they were going to let me go to 42 weeks, but I had had not had a single labor pain.
And so they wanted me to come to the hospital and have my fluids checked, you know, because I was past my due date. And then, you know, that was when it was confirmed that he was in the wrong position. And, and it was pretty devastating to me because, you know, given my goal of not even wanting to have it epidural, here I was having surgery.
And even though we had, um, you know, we tried aversion and everything, but it was, he was just too big and, and I, I wasn't, I just wasn't feeling like that was really going to happen. And, and I think the real frustration for me was how my midwives just turned over my care to this doctor, like right away.
And, um, and he was a good guy, but it was like, wait a minute, you know, I've been working with you. I've been building this relationship with you. And all of a sudden I'm like shaking this guy's hand and he's going to cut me open and take my baby out. So I had a lot of feelings about that. And, and, you know, I think when you become a mom and becoming a mom in and of itself is just such a big deal and it's such a learning experience and it's just, I mean, it's wonderful in so many ways, but there's also a lot to learn, you know?
And. And then just to, and so, you know, so my, my decision, yeah, to, to have a vaginal birth was partially, I was, I was kind of a, I'm kind of a fighter, you know, I was a little bit like, like, I'm gonna, you can't tell me what to do. Like, this isn't gonna happen again. Yeah. You know, I get that. And I was doing it a little bit for me, you know, I was like, I need to do this to myself because I, I think for myself, because.
I think the thing about a Caesarian, at least for me, and who I am, and what my personality is, is I just felt completely powerless in that situation. And I did not like that at all, you know? And so... So yeah, so for my second birth, I decided to, I, I still kind of wanted to work with midwives, although I was, I, it was, it was, it was a sort of difficult decision because I, I thought, well, I don't know, you know, the medical establishment makes you, makes you think that like the success rate for VBACs is really low and like it's really a hard thing to do.
And it's mostly because they just don't want to be bothered. That's my opinion. And so, um. So I did find a practice which was mostly OBs with one midwife and, you know, and I kind of made my peace with that because they were, they were very supportive and forward thinking and, um, as much as I thought it would be better to have a midwife, I knew I was most likely going to have a doctor at the birth and that is kind of what happened.
And, and that second birth was still hugely like medical, hugely medical birth. I had every possible intervention, intervention you could think of, you know, it wasn't pretty. Um, but I still, but, but I just felt so different afterwards, like night and day, I just cannot describe really even in words, like how powerful it was and how affirming it was.
Right, VBAC, right? Yeah, and I mean, and this, like I said, this was like a three day ordeal. Like, this was not, you know, because in a lot of ways, you know, because I hadn't had any labor in the first birth, my body, this really was kind of physically like my first, my body's first birth, right? Mm hmm. Um, and thank goodness I had a doula because she definitely helped me get through that.
And, um... Yeah, and, and, and like just waking up the next day like with my body intact and being able to get out of bed and not having any, you know, pain in my abdomen and being able to, you know, feed my baby and diaper my baby and do all those things that are just, you know, part of what, what every mom wants to be able to do, you know, when their baby is born.
And so, um, Yeah, so just hugely empowering. And, and then my third child was born in Texas, which is not a very feedback friendly state. I do, I do live in Austin. So, you know, it's, we're a little more progressive here, but, um, I will say I'm glad I went through it. Well, I'm glad I knew what I was doing already, um, before I attempted it here.
And that, and my last birth was probably my best one, but I, I mean, honestly, I'm not a big birth person. Like, I don't think birth is like, like some people hate being pregnant. I don't like, I wouldn't, you know, choose to go through that again if I, if I did have to. And I wish I felt differently about it. I really do.
Um, but I'm just being honest. Yeah, and you know, I feel like you just brought something up that's super valid. Because yes, birth can be beautiful, you can love absolutely every minute of it, but there's always the opposite side of that. You could hate every moment of it and never want to do it again, but you want these children.
So in order to get children, you have to go through that. So I totally get it. That's such a valid feeling. Thank you for sharing that. Because you know, there could be somebody out there that's like, Feeling the same way you do. And they're like, what's wrong with me? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. That's a normal feeling.
Right. Right. And I think you can feel that way. And also I want to have agency over it. Right. Right. It's not like, Oh, I birth stinks. And therefore I'm just going to have a repeat C section or, you know what I mean? Like sort of make it as easy as possible on myself. Um, like I said, I am a very determined person.
So to me, that felt like. Capitulating and I just was never on the table. Yeah. So, but I do think that well, you know, it's funny like now if I knew now what I knew then or vice versa, um, if I knew then what I know now, right. You know, I know that there was a big emotional component for me that if, if I were the person I am today, at that point, you know, I think.
Maybe things would have been a little easier, because I think the real turning point in my, my first feedback, and I, I wrote about this in my story in your e book, um, was that, you know, I was kind of stuck at five centimeters, and, and I think that's the challenge too of, of, of a medical model is that you have these goal posts that you have to hit.
You know, like, oh, you have to get to 10 centimeters. And if you're strep B positive, then you have to get to 10 centimeters within 24 hours. And if you're, if you're, you know, in the feedback, they make you be on the monitor the whole time. And there you're, you know, you can hear the things. And, and, and so, so that obviously adds to the stress.
And really, I think the key to a successful birth is to be as relaxed as possible. Right. And so to sort of tune out those things or to have the support system to do that. Um, because when When I was kind of stuck at five centimeters, the doctor came in and I, and I was there so long that I was on like my third shift, you know, of staff.
And she kind of was like having this conversation with me saying, you know, if this doesn't shift soon, we're going to have to start talking about surgery. And that was a real low moment for me. And at the same time. I knew that I had done everything I could to create the circumstances for the best birth possible.
And that it was just out of my hands at that point. And my husband said, you know, let's talk to the baby. And, yeah, and um, and we did. And that was, and that was really the turning point. Because we had just, we basically just said, you know what, it's okay, you're going to come into the world, however you come into the world, and we're going to love you no matter what, we can't wait to meet you, and, and then lo and behold, an hour later, I was fully dilated.
Yes, yeah, and that happens so much because I think, I feel like we create these mental blocks in our mind, and if we are holding ourself to the schedule that the doctor holds to us, it really feels like the, this pressure on top of us that we have to hit this by this time, or this is going to happen. So then that creates this anxiety, this fear inside of us, which if you know birth, if you have fear and anxiety that you're holding on to, your body takes that as, this is not safe.
This is not a safe place for me to give birth, because ultimately we are mammals. And if you say like, a deer's out there giving birth and they hear like a wolf out there and they're in labor, their labor automatically stops because they're not safe. And it's the same thing with us. So I feel like we have to get either past those mental blocks if we have doctors involved or You know, if it's not a doctor and we're at home giving birth, we have to realize what those mental blocks are.
And if we don't get past them, then like you said, we could be stuck at 5 centimeters for 12, 24 hours, whatever it might be. So yeah, that's a great point. Yeah, no, absolutely. Absolutely. I couldn't agree more with that. That's so amazing that you were able to get past that and then your baby was born, right?
Yay! And an hour later. Yes, yes, yep. I love that. Yeah, it was amazing. And yeah, you know, and he was actually born with a cord around his neck and I think I was just so tired at that point that I wasn't even really quite aware it was happening. Um, but I will say that my husband, um, thankfully, because they were going to whisk him up to the NICU right away.
And they, he said, you know what, let's let her hold him for just a little while, just a couple of minutes. And I really think that's, that's a really critical role of a support person to be there to kind of step in and, and be that communicator. And so, yeah, we held him and he was completely alert and calm and it was just like this wonderful, beautiful moment that I'll always treasure.
And then they did take him up to the NICU and I was like, okay, fine. I'll see you later. And, and was, was he okay? He was totally fine. There were these triplets that ended up getting, being born three, two hours later and they like sent him back down. They were like, you're an eight and a half pound healthy baby.
Right. Go after your mom . Yeah. Oh my gosh. I think if it has been busier, they, you know, they might not have, but yeah. Wow. That's not all that, so I'm so curious, um, because obviously we mentioned you, uh, do eef t tapping. So was this part of any of your pregnancy or postpartum journey? You know, no, I, I mean, I didn't find out about EFT until, like I said, two years ago.
And so, um, I wish I had known about it because I think it could have been really, really powerful. Um, and then one of the things I love about EFT is that it's so targeted. Um, and, and it's, it's really based on the premise that we hold memories in our body and You know, if we go through a stressful experience and we don't have the time to process it, or we aren't aware that we need to, or it was just so overwhelming that, you know, that it exceeds our body's capacity or our mental capacity to do so, then it gets stored in the body.
And, you know, really what EFT does is help unlock that memory, and it helps to uncouple the emotional trigger. From the experience, so we can still have the memory of the experience, but we no longer. Um, have that emotion tied to it, and it works especially well with the, um, fight or flight response, right?
Which is often what, what happens when we're in that situation. Like you were just referring to survival instincts with mammals, right? That's our reptilian brain, you know? Yes. Right? We're in danger. We have to shut down. Exactly. And so, yeah, and so this is a way to gently revisit the memory. And unlock the fear or whatever it is, whatever the feeling is that got held.
It kind of frozen in time, um, so that we can move forward. Gosh, I love that. So how do you utilize that in like your business? Because it's your business. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So how do you utilize that with your clients? Sure. So what I do is we will kind of discuss, um, you know, what the details of the event were.
So if you, if you did have, Okay. Birth trauma, we would really get into like the sensory aspects of it, cuz that's how it's encoded in our brains. So it might be the look on the doctor's face, it might be the, the texture of the sheet. You know, we really try to get or like the sounds that you're hearing, right?
So it's kind of the five senses and, and then we check in and we see where that is happening in the body. Uh, you know, where is that being held currently? And then we tap through it and, um, you know, and we're able to. Let it be processed, you know, and and sometimes people clear things very quickly.
Sometimes it takes multiple sessions. Um, if it's tied to something, you know, else that has happened to them, I mean, which is fairly common, right? Oh, yeah. Um, you know, I think for me personally, like If I had, if I had had EFT as a tool back then, you know, I came into motherhood with a lot of, uh, perfectionism and wanting to do things right and buy the book.
Right. And I'm gonna do it that, you know, I'm gonna follow all the advice and that everything will work out. And then it didn't , right? Yeah. So, um, you know, so that's why, and my business is called tap Intuition. And, and, and the reason is because I really, truly believe that we have the answers inside of us.
And that we just need to be listening and clearing out what's in the way of trusting, trusting that wisdom. Yeah, definitely. So yeah, I would love to do a little tapping demo with you if that would be a good time. Let's do it. Okay, great. So just tell me a little bit about, and this doesn't need to be specific to you, I'll keep it kind of general, but just, just if you could share a little bit about You had multiple cesareans?
Three. Yes. You had three and then you had one vaginal birth? Yes, after three. Yes. Okay. Okay. So it's possible you might still have a little trauma in there. Maybe you've cleared it. Oh yeah. Yeah. I've, I've been talking through it on this podcast, like talking through all the trauma. Cause there's a lot, there's a lot that happened.
Yeah, absolutely. I'm sure. Well, well, congratulations. Wow. Thank you. Yeah. That's really fantastic. I'm excited for you. Um, so why don't we go ahead and First just review the tapping points. Um, we're going to include an image, uh, in the notes for the podcast so that if you aren't familiar with them, you can refer to that.
Um, but the way that EFT works is we start by tapping on the side of the hand and, um, you will repeat three statements that I say. So that's the first point. And then after we do those three statements, then we move through the rest of the points. And the first one is the top of the head, right at the crown.
The second one is where the eyebrow meets your nose, and you can do this on either side of your face with one hand or two. Then we move to the side of the eye on the bone, under the eye, on the bone, under the nose, under the lip, above the chin, kind of where that dent is. The collarbone, which is like right below where your collarbone meets your sternum.
And then the last point we'll use is, um, under the arm, which is for women, usually right where your bra strapp hits. So let's go ahead and, um, we'll go through kind of like I said, a general tapping, uh, round, and what I'd like you to do is, if you, if you do have a memory around birth, or if you are about to have your first birth, just tune into any tension in your body that you might have around the, the past birth or, or your feelings about an upcoming birth.
And just think about, just see what your body has to share. If, lots of times what happens with EFT is people are like, well, I don't really feel anything or I can't sense anything. Just trust whatever your body, whatever is coming up for you. So it could be, lots of times people have tension in their stomach, um, tightness in the throat, um, shoulders, obviously.
Like we all carry a lot of tension there. And once you've located. A place, uh, give it a rating from 0 to 10. So 0 would be. 0, no tension at all and 10 would be like, the worst that you've ever felt. So just go ahead and be mindful of that number. And also, as you're thinking about. This place in your body, see if there is any color associated with this.
Feeling, um, or if there's a shape or a texture. So I was, I was tapping on something earlier and what came to mind was in my neck I had sort of like a really small, round, metallic ball. But again, like, consciously you're like, what? Like, where does that come from? Um, don't worry about it. This is not, the whole point of this is to sort of, like, get out of our brains.
And just trust what, just allow whatever it is to come forward. And I would also say, uh, for listeners who are tapping along, if you do become really overwhelmed or triggered by this exercise, to just back off and just take care of yourself. Just take responsibility for yourself. Okay, so are we ready? Mm hmm.
Okay. So go ahead and start tapping on the side of the hand, and if you wanna repeat after me, even though I have trauma from past births, even though I have trauma from past births, I deeply and completely accept myself. I deeply and completely accept myself, even though my previous birth did not go as planned, even though my previous birth did not go as planned.
I am open to releasing the trauma from this experience. I am open to releasing the trauma from this experience. Even though I want a different outcome for this birth. So just, just so you know, I'm just assuming whoever's tapping is probably pregnant right now. And I will also say that there's something called borrowed benefits.
So even if this particular tapping round doesn't, you don't feel like it completely applies to you, go ahead and just repeat what I'm saying, because you may, it may, um, Dissolve something for you that you didn't know was there. So anyway, sorry for that interruption. Uh, so even though I want a different outcome for this birth, even though I want a different outcome for this birth, I fully accept myself and my body.
I fully accept myself and my body under any circumstance, under any circumstance. Okay, so now we're going to go to the top of the head. I'm holding trauma in my body from this past birth. I'm holding trauma in my body from this past birth. And then you can say wherever it is in your body, it's in my neck, stomach, whatever.
I feel this in my neck. I feel a lot of tension, yeah. Okay, I feel it in my neck. All right, side of the eye. And now I'm pregnant again. And now I'm pregnant again. Don't tell my husband that.
Sorry, sorry. I totally get it. And of course we're just doing this as an example. Yes, of course. All right, under the eye. I don't feel ready to do this. I don't feel ready to do this. Under the nose, I'm scared. I'm scared. Chin point, there is so much pressure to do this right. There is so much pressure to do this right.
Collarbone, to follow the birth plan. To follow the birth plan. Under the arm, when the birth plan didn't work last time. When the birth plan didn't work last time. Back to the top of the head. I acknowledge these feelings in my body. I acknowledge these feelings in my body. Eyebrow, I thank my body for carrying this information for me.
I thank my body for carrying this information for me. Side of the eye, and I let my body know, and I let my body know, that it's safe to release these feelings now. That it's safe to release these feelings now. Under the eye, I am safe in my body. I am safe in my body. Right here, right now. Right here, right now.
Under the nose. I release these feelings. I release these feelings. In order to create a clearing. In order to create a clearing. Chin. A clearing for a new birth experience to emerge. A clearing for a new birth experience to emerge Collarbone. Maybe it's possible for this birth to be different. Maybe it's possible for this birth to be different under the arm.
I accept myself no matter how this birth unfolds. I accept myself no matter how this birth unfolds top of the head. I trust my body to open. I trust my body to open and release this baby at the appropriate time and release this baby at the appropriate time. Eyebrow my medical providers or partners in this process.
My medical providers are partners in this process side of the eye. My baby is a partner in this process. My baby is a partner in this process. Under the eye, I love and trust my baby. I love and trust my baby. To know what to do at the right time. To know what to do at the right time. Under the nose, maybe I'm even a little excited about this birth.
Maybe I'm even a little excited about this birth. Getting to meet my baby
for the first time. I'm in awe of this human being. I'm in awe of this human being. That my body has grown and nurtured, that my body has grown and nurtured under the arm. I tell my baby that they are safe in my body. I tell my baby that they are safe in my body, top of the head, and that they will be safe outside of my body and that they will be safe outside my body.
I will create a safe place for them in this world. I will create a safe place for them in this world. Connecting with my baby, connecting with my baby. Sending them love. Sending them love. Feeling their love. Feeling their love, knowing that we are both safe, knowing that we are both safe. And trust the process and trust the process.
Okay, so just take a deep breath.
How did that feel? You know, it felt really good. I actually wish I could have done this while I was pregnant because wow, that's crazy. I feel like less tension in my neck. Yeah, right? Did your number go down? Did your number shift? If you think about it. Oh, definitely. Definitely. Yeah. Now I will say for anybody listening, if you, and we didn't really obviously get into any like specific trauma, but if, if the number can go up.
So if something that, that I said was triggering for you, like, that's okay. It doesn't always go down right away, but I'm happy that that worked for you. Definitely. I feel like, calm, like, almost like I'm ready to take a nap now. It's weird. Yeah, no, that's fantastic. Actually, it's really common for people to yawn, you know, there's different ways or like burp, like there's different ways that our body releases this energy.
Yeah. So yeah, so if you feel moved to take a nap later, feel free. Definitely. I gave you permission. Oh, thank you. I love that. That was beautiful. Thank you for sharing that. Oh my gosh. I'm excited for people to do this on their own and see what it brings up. And you know what? I would love to put this out there.
So if you did do this EFT tapping, reach out to me or Denise and let us know like what came up for you or how that felt. I would love that. So, is there anything else that you would like to share with the audience before we kind of say goodbye here? Yeah, so, um, just want to let people know where they can find me.
Yeah. Um, and I do have a free gift, so if you are interested, I have an EFT first aid video, which is just a very simple tool that goes through the points and helps you release.
Um, and I'm also offering a birth prep package, which is a hundred dollars off of three sessions, the standard price. Um, and so that will be, that's for 275 if you purchase it before the end of June of this year. So, um, I would love to be able to support people who could benefit from this before they actually give birth.
Definitely. Oh my gosh. Thank you so much. Um, so there are a couple questions I would like to ask before we wrap up. Um, so in your experience, what would be the best way for like a partner to support them through this journey and say they're including like the EFT tapping and everything? How, how do you think a partner can best support?
So I think it's really important for partners to recognize that this is a very personal internal experience. For a woman that even though they may have been present for the previous births, or obviously they have something to do with this baby coming into the world, um, that it's still very much the woman in her body and, you know, her, her connection to the baby.
So I think it's just really important to respect that. And honestly, to ask and have a conversation in advance of how they would most like to be supported, because, you know, Unfortunately, in our culture, you know, birth is depicted like in movies and everything is this like crazy, chaotic, stressful, yelling kind of experience and, um, and I think for, for male partners in particular, like, I think there might be this Expectation of, Oh, I have to be like a coach.
Like, yeah, yeah. Like rah, rah. And, and there might be a place for that, but, um, but there was a time when my husband was doing that. And I was like, no, that's like, that I want to hear. Yes. And so, um, to just really kind of be sensitive to what, you know, support and coaching can be like holding their hand or just inviting them to connect with the baby, right.
Um, and like I said earlier, you know, being the 1 to. To be the 1st communication point with any staff who are involved, um, to to help communicate the mother's needs. Yeah, I love that. And so I'm curious, now that you're at this point in your life, is there anything that if you could go back that you would kind of do differently if you had a redo?
Yeah, for sure. You know, obviously I would have addressed the trauma beforehand if I had kind of been aware of it. But at the same time, you know, I feel like life is a process and we do the best that we can at any given point. And to really just be patient with yourself in that. Like, if you are aware of some birth trauma, like, don't feel like, Oh, gosh, I've got to clear this out, or it's not going to go well, right?
Like, I feel like life is, allows for a lot of imperfection. Um, and that's actually something that I've just learned from being a mom for 20 years. Um, and I think, especially having multiple children, you just, you just, learning to let go of things is, is a gradual, um, learning experience. And so, Um, you know, do the best that you can, but don't, don't set, don't, don't hold yourself to some impossible standard, you know, and, and to that end, you know, don't spend all your time online, on websites, or reading the books, or, you know, um, Like, there is useful information, but don't feel like you always have to be double checking and questioning yourself, you know?
If you feel like, gosh, I really don't feel like exercising today, or I really feel like eating Oreos, like, that's okay, right? Like, you know, like, to just, to not feel guilty, to really just make the best choices that you can, but to be your own expert. Definitely. Oh, I love that. Yes. Um, so I know we did talk about your website, but if somebody were to connect with you, what would be the best way that they could do that?
Um, obviously, honestly, just send me an email, um, you know, which is just info at tapintuition. com. So that's the most direct way to reach me. Awesome. All right. Well, thank you so much for this beautiful chat and that tapping exercise. Oh, I loved it so much. It was my pleasure. Thanks so much for having me today.
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